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| As he barely missed the National award, he was thus awarded the New York | As he barely missed the National award, he was thus awarded the New York |
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| As for me, it's carried on. I've lived in the heart of Islam (Saudi | As for me, it's carried on. I've lived in the heart of Islam (Saudi |
| Arabia), and Buddhism (Thailand), as well as Christianity, and find them all | Arabia), and Buddhism (Thailand), as well as Christianity, both Protestant (New England), and Catholic (Colombia) and find them all |
| similar. Can everybody else be wrong? More likely, they all are. I | similar. Can everybody else be wrong? More likely, they all are. I |
| personally find myself equally at home with Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, | personally find myself equally at home with Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, |
| pay for a discreet service for any young lady which I might have the | pay for a discreet service for any young lady which I might have the |
| misfortune of knocking-up should it ever be necessary. What a great lady. | misfortune of knocking-up should it ever be necessary. What a great lady. |
| Trust me, I'm not speaking with any sort of irony here. Should you think | |
| otherwise, we can meet in the parking lot.... | |
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| Below, a portrait of Paul and Tammy in about 1968. Is that really me?? I | Below, a portrait of Paul and Tammy in about 1968. Is that really me?? I |
| Bowermaster is Anglo-Saxon in origin. It was a name given to a person who | Bowermaster is Anglo-Saxon in origin. It was a name given to a person who |
| was the official bowerman, which means the servant who attended to the room | was the official bowerman, which means the servant who attended to the room |
| of the bower. | of the bower. Until the dictionary, an invention of only the last few hundred years, the |
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| Until the dictionary, an invention of only the last few hundred years, the | |
| English language lacked any comprehensive system of spelling rules. | English language lacked any comprehensive system of spelling rules. |
| Consequently, spelling variations in names are frequently found in early | Consequently, spelling variations in names are frequently found in early |
| They remained in the royal line for several hundred years. Saher de Quincey, Earl of Winchester, and one of the Magna Carta Barons, wrested the Great Charter from King John on the field of Runnymede in June of 1215. | They remained in the royal line for several hundred years. Saher de Quincey, Earl of Winchester, and one of the Magna Carta Barons, wrested the Great Charter from King John on the field of Runnymede in June of 1215. |
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| Today's name "Greene" was originally written "de Grene", "de Grean" (sometimes transcribed as "atte Gream") or "Grene" and changed again to simply "Greene" and in America changed again to mostly "Green" not in our case, thankfully, like some changed the spelling of Seymour to Seymore for some strange reason, we, on both sides of the family, held to tradition. It appears that the Greene's assumed their name from an allusion to their principal and beloved manor which was Boketon (now Greene's Norton), in the County of Northampton, England. The place was known for the excellence of its soil, its situation, and its spacious and delightful green. From Buckton, they assumed three bucks for their coat of arms. They were Lords of the Manor and owned many stately castles. | Today's name "Greene" was originally written "de Grene", "de Grean" (sometimes transcribed as "atte Gream") or "Grene" and changed again to simply "Greene" and in America changed again to mostly "Green" //not in our case, thankfully, like some changed the spelling of Seymour to Seymore for some strange reason, we, on both sides of the family, held to tradition.// It appears that the Greene's assumed their name from an allusion to their principal and beloved manor which was Boketon (now Greene's Norton), in the County of Northampton, England. The place was known for the excellence of its soil, its situation, and its spacious and delightful green. From Buckton, they assumed three bucks for their coat of arms. They were Lords of the Manor and owned many stately castles. |
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| In King Edward the III's reign (1327-1377), Sir Henry Greene (1310-1370) obtained for himself and his heirs the grand of a fair to be held yearly for three days beginning on the vigil of St. John the Baptist. Since that time down to the middle of the nineteenth century this fair was held up on the spacious green which gave name to the Greene family. | In King Edward the III's reign (1327-1377), Sir Henry Greene (1310-1370) obtained for himself and his heirs the grand of a fair to be held yearly for three days beginning on the vigil of St. John the Baptist. Since that time down to the middle of the nineteenth century this fair was held up on the spacious green which gave name to the Greene family. |
| Sir Henry de Greene was the Lord Chief Justice of England, and the ancestor of six Sir Thomas' who succeeded one another on the estate of Northampton without interruption. The last one died in 1506 leaving a daughter, Mathilda or Maude Greene, who married Sir Thomas Parr. Katherine Parr, the daughter of this Sir Thomas Parr and Mathilda or Maude Greene, was the sixth and last Queen of Henry VIII (1509-1547). At her death the estate passed to the Crown, but was restored to the Greene's in 1550 by a grant from Edward VI, Jane Seymour’s son (1547-1553) who gave it to his uncle, Katherine Parr's brother, Sir Thomas Parr. This Sir Thomas Parr was a Knight of the Garter.” | Sir Henry de Greene was the Lord Chief Justice of England, and the ancestor of six Sir Thomas' who succeeded one another on the estate of Northampton without interruption. The last one died in 1506 leaving a daughter, Mathilda or Maude Greene, who married Sir Thomas Parr. Katherine Parr, the daughter of this Sir Thomas Parr and Mathilda or Maude Greene, was the sixth and last Queen of Henry VIII (1509-1547). At her death the estate passed to the Crown, but was restored to the Greene's in 1550 by a grant from Edward VI, Jane Seymour’s son (1547-1553) who gave it to his uncle, Katherine Parr's brother, Sir Thomas Parr. This Sir Thomas Parr was a Knight of the Garter.” |
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| WOW! so here we see more Seymour- Greene connections going back about 500 years. Remember that after Henry VIII died that Thomas Seymour married, and had a child with, Katherine Parr. Let’s take a closer look at her now [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catherine_Parr]] | // WOW! so here we see more Seymour- Greene connections going back about 500 years. Remember that after Henry VIII died that Thomas Seymour married, and had a child with, Katherine Parr. Let’s take a closer look at her now// [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catherine_Parr]] |
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| Queen of England and Ireland----Catherine married Henry VIII on 12 July 1543 at Hampton Court Palace. She was the first Queen of England also to be Queen of Ireland following Henry's adoption of the title King of Ireland. As Queen, Catherine was partially responsible for reconciling Henry with his daughters from his first two marriages, who would later become Queen Mary I and Queen Elizabeth I. She also developed a good relationship with Henry's son Edward (her boyfriend, Thomas Seymour’s nephew), Prince of Wales, later King Edward VI. When she became Queen, her uncle Lord Parr of Horton became her Lord Chamberlain. | Queen of England and Ireland----Catherine married Henry VIII on 12 July 1543 at Hampton Court Palace. She was the first Queen of England also to be Queen of Ireland following Henry's adoption of the title King of Ireland. As Queen, Catherine was partially responsible for reconciling Henry with his daughters from his first two marriages, who would later become Queen Mary I and Queen Elizabeth I. She also developed a good relationship with Henry's son Edward (her boyfriend, Thomas Seymour’s nephew), Prince of Wales, later King Edward VI. When she became Queen, her uncle Lord Parr of Horton became her Lord Chamberlain. |
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| For three months, from July to September 1544, Catherine was appointed regent by Henry as he went on his last, unsuccessful, campaign in France. Thanks to her uncle having been appointed as member of her regency council, and to the sympathies of fellow appointed councilors Thomas Cranmer (the Archbishop of Canterbury) and Lord Hertford (Edward Seymour, her future brother-in-law), Catherine obtained effective control and was able to rule as she saw fit. She handled provision, finances and musters for Henry's French campaign, signed five Royal proclamations, and maintained constant contact with her lieutenant in the northern Marches, Lord Shrewsbury, over the complex and unstable situation with Scotland. It is thought that her actions as regent, together with her strength of character and noted dignity, and later religious convictions, greatly influenced her stepdaughter Lady Elizabeth (the future Queen Elizabeth I). | For three months, from July to September 1544, Catherine was appointed regent by Henry as he went on his last, unsuccessful, campaign in France. Thanks to her uncle having been appointed as member of her regency council, and to the sympathies of fellow appointed councilors Thomas Cranmer (the Archbishop of Canterbury) and Lord Hertford //(Edward Seymour, her future brother-in-law)//, Catherine obtained effective control and was able to rule as she saw fit. She handled provision, finances and musters for Henry's French campaign, signed five Royal proclamations, and maintained constant contact with her lieutenant in the northern Marches, Lord Shrewsbury, over the complex and unstable situation with Scotland. It is thought that her actions as regent, together with her strength of character and noted dignity, and later religious convictions, greatly influenced her stepdaughter Lady Elizabeth (the future Queen Elizabeth I). |
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| Her religious views were complex, and the issue is clouded by the lack of evidence. Although she must have been brought up as a Catholic, given her birth before the Protestant Reformation, she later became sympathetic to and interested in the "New Faith." It has been hypothesized that she was actually a Protestant by the mid-1540s, as we would now understand the term. We can be sure that she held some strong reformed ideas after Henry's death, when her second book, Lamentacions of a synner (Lamentations of a Sinner), was published in late 1547. The book promoted the Protestant concept of justification by faith alone, something which the Catholic Church deemed to be heresy. It is extremely unlikely that she developed these views in the short time between Henry's death and the publication of the book. Her sympathy with Anne Askew, the Protestant martyr who fiercely opposed the Catholic belief of transubstantiation, also suggests that she was more than merely sympathetic to the new religion. | Her religious views were complex, and the issue is clouded by the lack of evidence. Although she must have been brought up as a Catholic, given her birth before the Protestant Reformation, she later became sympathetic to and interested in the "New Faith." It has been hypothesized that she was actually a Protestant by the mid-1540s, as we would now understand the term. We can be sure that she held some strong reformed ideas after Henry's death, when her second book, Lamentacions of a synner (Lamentations of a Sinner), was published in late 1547. The book promoted the Protestant concept of justification by faith alone, something which the Catholic Church deemed to be heresy. It is extremely unlikely that she developed these views in the short time between Henry's death and the publication of the book. Her sympathy with Anne Askew, the Protestant martyr who fiercely opposed the Catholic belief of transubstantiation, also suggests that she was more than merely sympathetic to the new religion. |
| Regardless of whether she formally converted, which is unlikely, the Queen was reformed enough to be viewed with suspicion by Catholic and anti-Protestant officials such as Stephen Gardiner (the Bishop of Winchester) and Lord Wriothesley (the Lord Chancellor), who tried to turn the king against her in 1546. An arrest warrant was drawn up for her and rumours abounded across Europe that the King was attracted to her close friend, the Duchess of Suffolk. However, she managed to reconcile with the King after vowing that she had only argued about religion with him to take his mind off the suffering caused by his ulcerous leg. | Regardless of whether she formally converted, which is unlikely, the Queen was reformed enough to be viewed with suspicion by Catholic and anti-Protestant officials such as Stephen Gardiner (the Bishop of Winchester) and Lord Wriothesley (the Lord Chancellor), who tried to turn the king against her in 1546. An arrest warrant was drawn up for her and rumours abounded across Europe that the King was attracted to her close friend, the Duchess of Suffolk. However, she managed to reconcile with the King after vowing that she had only argued about religion with him to take his mind off the suffering caused by his ulcerous leg. |
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| Final marriage, childbirth and death---Following Henry's death on 28 January 1547, he had secured her with an allowance of ₤7,000 per year befitting her station. He further ordered, after his death, though a queen dowager, she be given the respect of a Queen of England, as if he was still alive. Catherine was able to marry her old love, Lord Seymour of Sudeley (as Sir Thomas Seymour had become). As they married within six months of the old king's death, they had to obtain the king's permission (Thomas Seymour’s nephew in this case) for the match. When their union became public knowledge, it caused a small scandal. Catherine became pregnant for the first time, by Seymour, at age thirty-five. This pregnancy was a surprise as Catherine had not conceived a child during her first three marriages (however, two of her husbands had been much older than she). During this time, a rivalry developed between Catherine and the Duchess of Somerset, the wife of her husband's brother, Edward Seymour the Duke of Somerset (as Lord Hertford had become), which became particularly acute over the matter of Catherine's jewels. The duchess argued that the jewels belonged to the Queen of England, and that as queen dowager, Catherine was no longer entitled to them. Instead she, as the wife of the protector, should be the one to wear them. She invoked the Act of Succession which clearly stated that Catherine had precedence over all ladies in the realm; in point of fact, as regards precedence, the Duchess of Somerset came after the Ladies Mary and Elizabeth, and Anne of Cleves, styled the King's Sister. Eventually, the duchess won the argument, which left her relationship with Catherine permanently damaged; the relationship between the two Seymour brothers also worsened as a result, since Lord Seymour saw the whole dispute as a personal attack by his brother on his social standing. Catherine's marriage also came under strain. Sex during pregnancy was frowned upon during the sixteenth century and Seymour began to take a possibly unhealthy interest in the Lady Elizabeth (Catherine's teenage step-daughter, and future Queen Elizabeth I), who was living in their household. He had reputedly plotted to marry her before marrying Catherine, and it was reported later that Catherine discovered the two in an embrace. On a few occasions before the situation risked getting completely out of hand, Catherine appears not only to have acquiesced in episodes of sexually charged horseplay, but actually to have assisted her husband. Whatever actually happened, Elizabeth was sent away in May 1548 to stay with Sir Anthony Denny's household at Cheshunt and never saw her beloved stepmother again, although the two corresponded. | Final marriage, childbirth and death---Following Henry's death on 28 January 1547, he had secured her with an allowance of ₤7,000 per year befitting her station. He further ordered, after his death, though a queen dowager, she be given the respect of a Queen of England, as if he was still alive. **Catherine was able to marry her old love, Lord Seymour of Sudeley (as Sir Thomas Seymour had become). As they married within six months of the old king's death, they had to obtain the king's permission (Thomas Seymour’s nephew in this case) for the match. When their union became public knowledge, it caused a small scandal. Catherine became pregnant for the first time, by Seymour, at age thirty-five. This pregnancy was a surprise as Catherine had not conceived a child during her first three marriages (however, two of her husbands had been much older than she). During this time, a rivalry developed between Catherine and the Duchess of Somerset, the wife of her husband's brother, Edward Seymour the Duke of Somerset (as Lord Hertford had become), which became particularly acute over the matter of Catherine's jewels. The duchess argued that the jewels belonged to the Queen of England, and that as queen dowager, Catherine was no longer entitled to them. Instead she, as the wife of the protector, should be the one to wear them. She invoked the Act of Succession which clearly stated that Catherine had precedence over all ladies in the realm; in point of fact, as regards precedence, the Duchess of Somerset came after the Ladies Mary and Elizabeth, and Anne of Cleves, styled the King's Sister. Eventually, the duchess won the argument, which left her relationship with Catherine permanently damaged; the relationship between the two Seymour brothers also worsened as a result, since Lord Seymour saw the whole dispute as a personal attack by his brother on his social standing. Catherine's marriage also came under strain. Sex during pregnancy was frowned upon during the sixteenth century and Seymour began to take a possibly unhealthy interest in the Lady Elizabeth (Catherine's teenage step-daughter, and future Queen Elizabeth I), who was living in their household. He had reputedly plotted to marry her before marrying Catherine, and it was reported later that Catherine discovered the two in an embrace. On a few occasions before the situation risked getting completely out of hand, Catherine appears not only to have acquiesced in episodes of sexually charged horseplay, but actually to have assisted her husband. Whatever actually happened, Elizabeth was sent away in May 1548 to stay with Sir Anthony Denny's household at Cheshunt and never saw her beloved stepmother again, although the two corresponded.** |
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| The Six Wives of Henry VIII | **The Six Wives of Henry VIII |
| Catherine of Aragon | Catherine of Aragon |
| Anne Boleyn, a cousin of Jane Seymour through Margery Wentworth, Sir John’s wife | Anne Boleyn, //a cousin of Jane Seymour through Margery Wentworth, Sir John’s wife// |
| Jane Seymour, a half sister of John Seymour of Sawbridgeworth | Jane Seymour, //a half sister of John Seymour of Sawbridgeworth// |
| Anne of Cleves | Anne of Cleves |
| Catherine Howard | Catherine Howard |
| Catherine Parr, daughter of Maud Greene | Catherine Parr, //daughter of Maud Greene//** |
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| Catherine gave birth to her only child — a daughter, Mary Seymour, named after her stepdaughter who would go on to become Queen Mary I of England— on 30 August 1548, and died only six days later, on 5 September 1548, at Sudeley Castle in Gloucestershire, from what is thought to be puerperal fever or puerperal sepsis, also called childbed fever. Coincidentally, this was also the illness that killed Henry's third wife, Jane Seymour. It was not uncommon, due to the lack of hygiene around childbirth. It has been suspected that Catherine's husband, Sir Thomas Seymour, may have poisoned her in order to carry out his plan to marry Lady Elizabeth (the future Queen Elizabeth I). As we’ve seen earlier, Thomas was a real nut. | |
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| Lord Seymour of Sudeley was beheaded for treason less than a year later, and Mary was taken to live with the Dowager Duchess of Suffolk, a close friend of Catherine. After a year and a half, Mary's property was restored to her by an Act of Parliament, easing the burden of the infant's household on the duchess. The last mention of Mary Seymour on record is on her second birthday, and although stories circulated that she eventually married and had children, most historians believe she died as a child. But how could someone so important just disappear???? The Tudors and the Seymours were in all-out covert war at this time for possession of the throne, and anything could have happened to the poor kid. | **Catherine gave birth to her only child — a daughter, Mary Seymour**, named after her stepdaughter who would go on to become Queen Mary I of England— on 30 August 1548, and died only six days later, on 5 September 1548, at Sudeley Castle in Gloucestershire, from what is thought to be puerperal fever or puerperal sepsis, also called childbed fever. Coincidentally, this was also the illness that killed Henry's third wife, Jane Seymour. It was not uncommon, due to the lack of hygiene around childbirth. It has been suspected that Catherine's husband, Sir Thomas Seymour, may have poisoned her in order to carry out his plan to marry Lady Elizabeth (the future Queen Elizabeth I). //As we’ve seen earlier, Thomas was a real nut. |
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| | Lord Seymour of Sudeley was beheaded for treason less than a year later, and Mary was taken to live with the Dowager Duchess of Suffolk, a close friend of Catherine. After a year and a half, Mary's property was restored to her by an Act of Parliament, easing the burden of the infant's household on the duchess. The last mention of Mary Seymour on record is on her second birthday, and although stories circulated that she eventually married and had children, most historians believe she died as a child. // But how could someone so important just disappear???? The Tudors and the Seymours were in all-out covert war at this time for possession of the throne, and anything could have happened to the poor kid.// |
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| Remains---In 1782, a gentleman by the name of John Locust discovered the coffin of Queen Catherine at the ruins of the Sudeley Castle chapel. He opened the coffin and observed that the body, after 234 years, was in a surprisingly good condition. Reportedly the flesh on one of her arms was still white and moist. After taking a few locks of her hair, he closed the coffin and returned it to the grave. | Remains---In 1782, a gentleman by the name of John Locust discovered the coffin of Queen Catherine at the ruins of the Sudeley Castle chapel. He opened the coffin and observed that the body, after 234 years, was in a surprisingly good condition. Reportedly the flesh on one of her arms was still white and moist. After taking a few locks of her hair, he closed the coffin and returned it to the grave. |
| The coffin was opened a few more times in the next ten years and in 1792 some drunken men buried it upside down and in a rough way. When the coffin was officially reopened in 1817, nothing but a skeleton remained. Her remains were then moved to the tomb of Lord Chandos whose family owned the castle at that time. In later years the chapel was rebuilt by Sir John Scott and a proper altar-tomb was erected for Queen Catherine.” | The coffin was opened a few more times in the next ten years and in 1792 some drunken men buried it upside down and in a rough way. When the coffin was officially reopened in 1817, nothing but a skeleton remained. Her remains were then moved to the tomb of Lord Chandos whose family owned the castle at that time. In later years the chapel was rebuilt by Sir John Scott and a proper altar-tomb was erected for Queen Catherine.” |
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| Now back to the Greene story---“Robert Greene, Gentleman of Bowridge Hill, Gillingham, County of Dorset, England, (down in the same neighborhood with the Seymours in SW England) was taxed on the subsidy rolls of Henry VIII in 1547 and those of Queen Elizabeth in 1558. (REF: papers from Mrs. William B. Smith (30) of DeCatur, Georgia, as given in "A Family Genealogy" by William Henry Beck, III). | //Now back to the Greene story-//--“Robert Greene, Gentleman of Bowridge Hill, Gillingham, County of Dorset, England, (down in the same neighborhood with the Seymours in SW England) was taxed on the subsidy rolls of Henry VIII in 1547 and those of Queen Elizabeth in 1558. (REF: papers from Mrs. William B. Smith (30) of DeCatur, Georgia, as given in "A Family Genealogy" by William Henry Beck, III). |
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| The family name of Greene is derived, says Somerby, from possessions held in Northamptonshire as early as the times of King Edward I. In 1320 Sir Thomas de Greene, Lord of Broughton (or Boughton), and Norton, later called "Greene's Norton", succeeded to the estate. His son, Sir Henry de Greene, Lord of Greene's Norton, was Lord Chief Justice in 1353. The tomb of the latter which remains perfect, is ornamented with many shields showing different houses with which he was connected, and conspicuous among them is the coat of arms of his own family. | The family name of Greene is derived, says Somerby, from possessions held in Northamptonshire as early as the times of King Edward I. In 1320 Sir Thomas de Greene, Lord of Broughton (or Boughton), and Norton, later called "Greene's Norton", succeeded to the estate. His son, Sir Henry de Greene, Lord of Greene's Norton, was Lord Chief Justice in 1353. The tomb of the latter which remains perfect, is ornamented with many shields showing different houses with which he was connected, and conspicuous among them is the coat of arms of his own family. |
| The second baron of the line, as listed in old rolls of 20th year of Henry III, (1236) and 45th year of same king, (1261) was Sir Walter de Boketon. The same properties or affairs listed again in a roll of the 7th year of Edward II, ( 1 314) repeat the name of Sir Walter, and also give name of John de Boketon, whom we may consider the next heir. As the fourth lord was certainly Sir Thomas, who received the title in his infancy, at the beginning of the reign of Edward I, (1272) this (Sir) John de Boket on was doubtless the young crusading Knight who perished in Palestine in 1271. | The second baron of the line, as listed in old rolls of 20th year of Henry III, (1236) and 45th year of same king, (1261) was Sir Walter de Boketon. The same properties or affairs listed again in a roll of the 7th year of Edward II, ( 1 314) repeat the name of Sir Walter, and also give name of John de Boketon, whom we may consider the next heir. As the fourth lord was certainly Sir Thomas, who received the title in his infancy, at the beginning of the reign of Edward I, (1272) this (Sir) John de Boket on was doubtless the young crusading Knight who perished in Palestine in 1271. |
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| Ambitious family antiquarians are always proud if they can claim a royal descent. The Greenes find no trouble in presenting their royal tree, as their lineal line to the Capet Kings of France is complete without a break or an uncertain ancestor. We have followed Halstead's Genealogy, Browning's Americans of Royal Descent, and Rev. S. Beal's, D. C. L. Account of Green's Norton, together with the known genealogy of the Capetian Kings of France, all of which agree with each other. Halstead's Genealogy stands at the head of English works of this kind. It was written in 15S5 by the second Earl of Peterborough, himself of the blood of Greene. He assumed the pen name of Robert Halstead, and hence his work is always spoken of as Halstead's Genealogy, although his true name is well known. | Ambitious family antiquarians are always proud if they can claim a royal descent. The Greenes find no trouble in presenting their royal tree, as their lineal line to the Capet Kings of France is complete without a break or an uncertain ancestor. We have followed Halstead's Genealogy, Browning's Americans of Royal Descent, and Rev. S. Beal's, D.C. L. Account of Green's Norton, together with the known genealogy of the Capetian Kings of France, all of which agree with each other. Halstead's Genealogy stands at the head of English works of this kind. It was written in 15S5 by the second Earl of Peterborough, himself of the blood of Greene. He assumed the pen name of Robert Halstead, and hence his work is always spoken of as Halstead's Genealogy, although his true name is well known. |
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| Both Sir Thomas, who married Lady Lucie, and their son, Sir Henry, the Lord Chief Justice, received high honors from the hand of King Edward III, one of the best and strongest kings England ever had, and whose long reign of 50 years allowed him to bring about many reforms. He was a warrior and statesman, with a lawyer-like bent of mind. More important laws were passed in his reign than in 300 years before. He created Justices of the Peace; made the rank of a duke ; established the Order of the Garter ; divided Parliament into the House of Commons and the House of Lords, and had its powers first clearly defined. He ordered the use of the English language in Court and Parliament instead of French. An energetic, change-working king such as he, had particular need of a counselor of trained judicial qualities. He found such a trusted adviser in Sir Henry de Greene, the foremost lawyer of his day. Sir Henry's rank would not allow him to plead before the bar, but he put all his mental acumen and legal knowledge at his royal master's command. The King was deeply attached to him. Little did either of them think that in a day to come the King's grandson would cut off the head of his counselor's favorite son. | Both Sir Thomas, who married Lady Lucie, and their son, Sir Henry, the Lord Chief Justice, received high honors from the hand of King Edward III, one of the best and strongest kings England ever had, and whose long reign of 50 years allowed him to bring about many reforms. He was a warrior and statesman, with a lawyer-like bent of mind. More important laws were passed in his reign than in 300 years before. He created Justices of the Peace; made the rank of a duke; established the Order of the Garter; divided Parliament into the House of Commons and the House of Lords, and had its powers first clearly defined. He ordered the use of the English language in Court and Parliament instead of French. An energetic, change-working king such as he, had particular need of a counselor of trained judicial qualities. He found such a trusted adviser in Sir Henry de Greene, the foremost lawyer of his day. Sir Henry's rank would not allow him to plead before the bar, but he put all his mental acumen and legal knowledge at his royal master's command. The King was deeply attached to him. Little did either of them think that in a day to come the King's grandson would cut off the head of his counselor's favorite son." |
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| There’s all the information that I have on my mother’s lineage. Like with the Seymours, the Greene’s were a founding family of both modern day England and then of America. They had large families, and from 1635 out through 1800, like the Seymours moved from Rhode Island westward to upstate New York where there was more land and less people. However, up to now, I haven’t been able to follow that migration from one of the original Johns to Great Grandma Pearl Greene. | //There’s all the information that I have on my mother’s lineage. Like with the Seymours, the Greene’s were a founding family of both modern day England and then of America. They had large families, and from 1635 out through 1800, like the Seymours moved from Rhode Island westward to upstate New York where there was more land and less people. However, up to now, I haven’t been able to follow that migration from one of the original Johns to Great Grandma Pearl Greene.// |
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| The most successful general in the Revolutionary War, after George Washington, was General Nathanael Greene. [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathanael_Greene]] | The most successful general in the Revolutionary War, after George Washington, was General Nathanael Greene. [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathanael_Greene]] |
| He was born in Warwick, Rhode Island, and is descended from one of the two John Greene cousins that founded the area. He primarily fought in the south during the war, and there are at least 36 counties and cities named for him, including Greene County, NY where William Seymour Jr.’s wife Dorothy Lord was born, herself the daughter of Mary Greene. There are innumerable streets and other places named for him. | He was born in Warwick, Rhode Island, and is descended from one of the two John Greene cousins that founded the area. He primarily fought in the south during the war, and there are at least 36 counties and cities named for him, including Greene County, NY where William Seymour Jr.’s wife Dorothy Lord was born, herself the daughter of Mary Greene. There are innumerable streets and other places named for him. |
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| Almost unbelievably, after settling near Savannah Georgia after the war, he died at 42 of sunstroke. There’s a large grave site for him in Johnson Square in Savannah, Georgia. It seems like Greene Square, named for him and also in Savannah would have been a more logical choice, but…. | Almost unbelievably, after settling near Savannah Georgia after the war, he died at 42 of sunstroke. There’s a large grave site for him in Johnson Square in Savannah, Georgia. It seems like Greene Square, named for him and also in Savannah would have been a more logical choice, but…. There are many monuments to old Nate around the country, but this one is near his grave site in Savannah, which I believe was also the park featured in my favorite movie of all time "Forrest Gump". I fell in love with the movie long before I knew that the monument in the background was dedicated to a truly great and honorable relative of ours: |
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